in case you missed it…

Posted by Lorn Potter on March 3, 2009 · 16 comments

Hidden behind the great news about Qt 4.5 and QtCreator 1.0 release, there is this:

Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended

But all is not lost, ye fans of open source phones! The Qt Extended source now lies solely in the hands of the community. You can find an unoffical git repo of Qtopia and Qtextended here

Not sure when this will be updated with 4.4.3..
git clone git://git.asheesh.org/qtopia_snapshot.git

Yes, it is a bit sad when all you have worked for the last 5 years or so gets axed, and we have had a few anxious weeks here in Brisbane finding new things to work on, but hey – when one door closes, another opens!

Qt Everywhere!

and if I may make a personal rant.. would you know it, just barely a week after I bought a mac mini… they announce a new version!

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16 comments

1 HouYu Li March 4, 2009 at 12:40 am
 

Hi, there. I am happy that the community is still there, which makes me feel not lost. But is there a core mailing list or any communication method for the community???

2 lorn March 4, 2009 at 12:43 am
 

Yes, unofficially on irc.freenode.net #qtopia

3 Carina Denkmann March 4, 2009 at 12:58 am
 

Is that released as LGPL, too? Haven’t looked deeply, but I am sure there are many gems lying around in that repo that would be useful to add to Qt, KDE, or applications.

4 lorn March 4, 2009 at 1:02 am
 

Qt Extended will remain GPL, so it is always remaining free.

5 Tuxta March 4, 2009 at 2:21 am
 

Well, I’m speechless. What is happening at Technology park now?
I was working my way through “C++ Gui Programming with Qt4″ and hoping at the end up my degree (12 months away) to hit up the Brisbane office for a job, (though apart from work, i still want to contribute to KDE.)

So what is to become of the Brisbane office?
Do you think there will be opportunities in the future? Or will it shrink now qtopia is a thing of the past?

6 David B March 4, 2009 at 4:25 am
 

Well Trolltech certainly tried it’s best with Qtopia. I wonder what Nokia’s plans are for Qt and Symbian. Qt by itself seems rather useless, as it only gives you a glorified way to write “hello world”. Now if they integrate Qt so that you can access the phone’s pim, dialer etc then you have a real solution (what Qtopia was). I do hope Nokia comes up with a strategy to keep itself relevant against the iphones and androids of the world, but its looking more and more like the train has pulled out of the station and Nokia has been left standing on the same platform Motorola is now begging for change on.

7 Bill King March 4, 2009 at 5:50 am
 

@Tuxta: We’re still going strong here, we’ve all been subsumed into the Qt team now (see the qt release blog entry, we’re all in there :) ). We’re still going strong as a team :) It’s the minds (and passions) that nokia bought more than the software.

8 lorn March 4, 2009 at 5:57 am
 

David B: Think “Qt Everywhere” and you shall know…

9 Hans March 4, 2009 at 10:22 am
 

Which parts do you plan to migrate into the Qt framework?

10 Anon March 4, 2009 at 11:21 am
 

Knut Yrvin has made an interesting post on dot.kde.org:

http://dot.kde.org/2009/03/03/qt-software-releases-lgpled-qt-45-and-creator-10-provides-sdk#comments

(I can’t find a way to get a URL for a specific comment)

11 Andrew Howlett March 5, 2009 at 12:06 am
 

I am a newcomer to Qt Extended. First and foremost, thank you for all your hard work on this codebase. I use it on my Openmoko Freerunner and I’m very happy. Your work is certainly not wasted.

If the Qt Extended project is being passed to the community then I have a few questions. First, is the qterminal source GPL? I snatched a copy from someone’s git repo but I’m hesitant to share it because it was pulled from the official snapshots. Second, can we PLEASE change the name back to qtopia?

cheers from Owen Sound, Canada.

12 David B March 5, 2009 at 4:08 am
 

I look forward to Qt Everywhere Lorn, but Nokia seems to be really saying, “everything everywhere” as they just announced a new Mameo (?) SDK which is of course based on GTK. Is it their idea to cook everything, throw it against the wall and see what sticks? Even Google with all of their infinite resources keeps their Android solution relegated one flavor of a bastardized Java. Maybe those guys way up at the top of Nokia got it all figured out and my small brain can’t cope with what they are doing, or maybe they just don’t know what they are doing. While not trying to brag I think it is the latter, and their constant dwindling market share concurs. Perhaps it is meant to be, Palm, Motorola were giants of their times. Their extinction is like that of the dinosaurs unable to adept to changes in the environment.

Don’t anybody get me wrong, I am a big fan of Qt and appreciate all Nokia has done in elevating this product. But is to late ? Is there room for C++ in a world of Java and JavaScript. All of this makes me a little misty eyed and yern for the good old days of FORTRAN – a language with like twelve statements, but those twelve statements got us to the moon and back. Oh well, best to stop this senseless kind of reminiscing. I heard it in a country western song, “There ain’t no future in the past”.

13 Justin March 5, 2009 at 3:30 pm
 

Don’t feel bad about buying a Mac mini a week before the new ones come out. Turns out, the new ones aren’t much faster: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/03/04/benchmarks_of_2009_imacs_mac_minis_show_negligible_speed_ups.html

14 Lukas March 7, 2009 at 12:52 am
 

Does this mean that there will be a cross-platform (Linux, Mac OS X, Windows, S60) Bluetooth API in Qt 4.6?

15 Niklas Vanhainen March 9, 2009 at 6:39 am
 

I’m very surprised at this move. I had assumed Qtopia was the reason Nokia bought Trolltech, but I guess since they’re discontinuing it must have been something else.

16 Carina Denkmann March 16, 2009 at 3:12 pm
 

Hi, I just read your very old blog “tablet kde”, and I was wondering when Qt 4 starts working better with real tablet PCs (not PDA)? The fact that I cannot click on an item header to change sorting is annoying, it starts dragging immediately, without respecting QApplication::dragDistance(). The submenu problem is annoying too. Qt 3 was no problem.

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